Greetings all,


I have a current issue that I've shared with two LE officers. One says that the matter is purely civil in nature. But hasn't yet given a reason why he thinks so (see the very end of this post). The other thinks the original violation was civil in nature. But that it crossed over to criminal when this person lied to the Department of Labor and MSPB (goggle MSPB if you don't know what it is) to cover up the original violation. He cites "18 USC 1001" and gives the Martha Stewart case as a prime, well known, example.

What follows is a very basic outline of the situation. I apologise now for the length of this post.


I'd like to start off by asking a question. If you (as a federal investigator) were shown you were lied to on an investigation. Wouldn't you atleast be interested? Well several months ago I showed Mr. Patrick, of the Deptartment of Labor-VETS, that he'd been lied to during an investigation. However instead of being interested his reply to me was basically "it's no longer my problem". Since he had closed the investigation. I've tried to contact him several times but he never seems to be available. If you had found out that there actually was a violation in a case you'd investigated. And that the leadership of an organization had lied to you to cover up that violation. Wouldn't it be of interest to you?

I have also contacted William Torrens. Who is part of the DOL Compliance staff. And shown him the same evidence I've shown here. But he also doesn't seem to be bothered by the fact that Mr. Patrick was lied to. And has, so far, expressed no intention of following up on this violation. Let alone the fact that Mr. Patrick was lied to during his investigation. I'm not sure what to think of the situation. I had thought that after being shown they were lied to. That they would vigorously go after this violation. But they have done exactly the opposite.

What follows are links to the information I have that shows the violation. And the fact that Mr. Patrick was lied to several times in the letter sent to him by this organization.


This is the letter that the organization CO sent to Mr. Patrick of DOL-VETS.


COletter.pdf - *Looks like I cannot post links on this forum. Please post, or message me, for links to the documents I have.


Please note that he says no one with my same score or lower was hired. Yet the hiring list shows differently. You should also note at the end of the letter. He says that he cannot send the DOL investigator a hiring list since it is still active. The CO wrote this letter on January 24th, 2008 (see date on letter). However I'd been told, when I called after seeing the 2nd announcement posted, that the list was exhausted at the end of November 2007. So he was being less than truthful there.


And here is the relevant part of the hiring list from that first announcement. Which was included in the agency response to MSPB. So at the front of the document they say one thing. Then later show the hiring list that shows that to be a lie. (I'm wondering as well why MSPB said nothing about this at that time?)


hirelist.pdf - *Looks like I cannot post links on this forum. Please post, or message me, for links to the documents I have.


There were a total of 69 people hired from this first list. All of the 16 people you see with the same score as the last person hired are military veterans. There were 3 more announcements created for these positions. And well over 100 more people hired from those 3 announcements.


Additionally they said the same thing to the Merit Service Protection Board (MSPB) So this wasn't a one time deal. Or an admin mess up.


mspbresponse.pdf - *Looks like I cannot post links on this forum. Please post, or message me, for links to the documents I have.


The MSPB has also said they will not do anything. Despite the fact that they were lied to as well in official documents. (Note: I was contacted by someone at MSPB, several months after my case was dismissed. And told I should contact a US Attorney about a violation of 18 USC 1001.)

I'm not sure if this is SOP for government organizations or what. Because to an ordinary citizen this just doesn't make sense. Considering if your average joe employer lied to the DOL, they would probably be in atleast some kind of trouble.



The following is a quote of the entire email I've received from the LE officer that thinks this is a civil matter.


"The information you supplied appears to be civil in nature. I would look at it again if you put it in a more formal statement and not the handwritten notes you have on the information you supplied. You can try me during the day by calling our main number if you want to discuss why I think its civil and not a criminal matter."


I've tried to call but have only gotten voice mail. And so far no return call from my voicemail messages. My question is why would filing a formal statement change things? Since (regardless of my notes) he would have the exact same information as he does now.




So I'm hoping someone here will have some thoughts on this situation. So far it appears to me (from an ordinary citizen looking in) that no one wants to touch this organization. That this CO and agency have "Sacred Cow" status.

Thank you for the time taken to read this. I look forward to any comments/suggestions you have.

Thank you again.