Dude it SOUNDS like a GREAT idea to let the MP's do the work that they are hiring the civilians for. I agree with your points to an extent however... I have worked both sides of the military police community. I have done garrision and I have done combat support both in Germany and at Fort Hood. I had no problem with combat support and when I worked with other fields like infantry and armor they loved us once they learned more about us. Garrison on the other hand, people hate MP's. In my experience and hearing from others as well, the only ones who WORK the road are normally E5 and below. Very rarely did I see an E6 working the road except overseas. The young MP's that do work the road are often too young and immature to handle the responsiblity of it. They sleep on duty, find sham spots and often dont care about the people they are dealing with. They tend to often have a power trip in dealing with non-MP's. Most young MP's dont even want to work the road anymore and would rather be in the field.

As far as the DA cops being out of shape and over weight, it is the ARMY's own fault for allowing lax PT standards and ridiculous hiring process that does not weed out the trash who just want another paycheck to do a serious job. New hires should have been sent to FLETC and be under the age of at least 41. Most of the DA Cops I have worked with that are younger have came from the Army or other branches and know how to take care of their own but they leave because most (not all) of the DA cops that came from outside the military give the program a bad name and constantly talk about it not realizing they are a part of it. If the Army took it seriously from the start there would not be fat boddied whiners in the civilian police program. I am a DA police officer now because I am sick of the MP corps and the trash that the army is allowing into it these days. I'm not out of shape and I take my job seriously and with respect to the soldiers I work with. As for the DA Cops and civilians police that think they are better than the MP's and look down on them, they are simply Idiots. I picked DA Police because there is potential to turn it around and have it become a reputable organization

I applied for the DOD police at one point. They had better pay and benefits.

Here is my background;
3 years Corrections, 1 year of that on S.O.R.T.
2 Years in jail
6 years as Road Patrol (4 of that on SWAT)
12 years as a Medic for the military

I was told I was NOT qualified.

Yet I see people I KNOW have no experience what so ever and they get the job.

I do not have any confidence in the DOD police.

I agree the hiring system sucks and that there is some "good ol boy" things going on at different duty stations. I personally think that the program should be put under the Deptarment of Homeland Security instead of DOD to have a better standards and hiring procedures. Maybe then every officer could be properly trained. The only thing each base has in common is the uniforms and a some BS manual made by some military desk jockey who has no idea what real law enforcement is or what is needed for it. I too have seen people that have had very minimal expericence in the field get the job. I'm sorry you didn't get picked up for the Job and probably worked out for the best with you if you dont like DOD.

When you applied for the job, did you do it over the internet and did it not refer you? That is a problem I have seen with a lot people who are qualified but dont get it. That is a big problem with their hiring process. One of the first steps is to apply online and a computer pre-screens the applications before a person even gets to it. I think that is ABSURD because if you haven put "certain" keywords in your resume it automatically disqualifies you. I really would like to see changes made but its going to have to come from DC and I believe eventually that will happen.

Just be thankful you dont have to deal with a military criminal justice system that is a joke. JAG hates prosocuting civilians and juveniles, even though we have our own Federal Magistrate and Special Assitaint to the US Attorney. From what I have seen people who commit serious crimes rarely see any jail time on these installations.

I'm curious about these guys that got hired cause they were better qualified than you, Swattie. Did they, by any chance, have a brown smelly substance on their noses? And did they tend to nod their heads energetically and say "yes, yes, yes" even when no one asked them a question?

That there is funny. I don't know what the criteria was.

As for the application process. Yes I did do it online. Oh well. I like it better where I am at anyhow. It is better than checking ID's all day at a gate.

Well, maybe they check ID's at some places but where I work, we have an investigations, section, traffic section, K-9 section, SRT (SWAT), patrol section and everything else you would find at a civilian department. As far as I go, I'm not a "Yes Man."

True dat true dat, about the standards, for the most part, they suck. Having just graduated from the DACP Academy in Aberdeen, MD. I can truely say that FLETC should not be an option. One thing though, they dropped 2 for not passing the PT test. Anyway Im 45 yrs old and being and a ex Airborne Instructor and Sr Drill Sgt. Im guaranteed to bring smoke on to any one of the youngsters out there. Therefore the comment about officers should be hired at 41 and under needs to be thrown out the window. Cant say why u wasnt hired Swattie, but I will tell you that your resume must mirror the duties and or skills, knowledge, abilities (KSA) per job announcement.

Kuff, the age of 41 would be a guide line. Its not meant to offend. Most federal agencies have a max age between 37 and 40. How is DA ever supposed to get law enfocement pay when they continue to exceed the max age requirements most every other federal agency uses. I have seen age waived for prior military time and/or former police service. If the applicant qualifies after that then by all means hire them right? It sounds like you would still qualify even if they did it. I gotta say though, the standards in AR 190-56 for PT suuuucks.